Q&A With Forum and Shiva

Ever since we started sharing about our travel experiences and vegan lifestyle online, we’ve received so many questions from people – on social media and in-person meet-ups – curious about how we travel as vegans or what our mission with Barriers and Borders is! So we thought why not dedicate a blog post sharing about everything – honestly and transparently. So here goes.

We’ve grouped the questions by topic, so you can easily skip to the sections that interest you most. Also, if you’d like, put on this soft little melody by Rachel Yamagata as you read through our thoughts. It feels like the perfect soundtrack for this post 🙂

It’s not where your dreams take you, it’s where you take your dreams.

Maya Angelou

personal background and relationship

Q: How and when did you guys meet?

Forum: We met each other in an architecture office in Bangalore in the year 2015. Shiva was working in the office as a junior architect, and I’d joined the place to do my first internship.

Q: How old are you both? Are you guys married?

Shiva: I’m 33, and Forum is 32. Yes, we married each other in a simple, small ceremony held in Bangalore among our closest family members and friends. Unfortunately, that wasn’t really how we’d imagined celebrating our togetherness. You see, many indian wedding traditions are patriarchal in nature: from kanyadaan, which literally translates to “giving away the bride” to other rituals that place unequal responsibilities and expectations on the two people getting married. Since we don’t believe in conforming to traditional gender roles, we had hoped to have a civil ceremony that felt more aligned with our values. Sadly, that, didn’t go down particularly well with our families. So, in the end, we found a compromise that everyone could live with: a small ceremony that brought together our very different families under one roof. 

Q: When did you guys move to Europe? And where are you currently based?

Shiva: Forum moved to Belgium in 2019 to pursue Master’s in Sustainable Architecture, and I wanted to study landscape architecture. So I moved to Germany in 2021. We’re currently based in Wiesbaden, Germany. 

professional life & Barriers and Borders

Q: When did you guys start Barriers and Borders?

Forum: We started Barriers and Borders in late 2022 and early 2023. But, back then, we had very limited knowledge of creating a website, or creating reels – all we wanted was to just share our meaningful travel experiences.

Q: Are you both full-time travel storytellers?

Shiva: Forum is the only full-time employee at Barriers and Borders right now. I’m working full-time as a landscape architect and part-time as a travel storyteller.

Q: Who writes blogs and who handles social media?

Forum and Shiva: We both love writing, and believe that we’re able to best express ourselves through this art. We write and edit most of our blogs together. Social media  captions depend on the story we’re telling, but we do that together as well. However, Instagram stories is solely Forum’s space for sharing spontaneous, unfiltered moments, and behind-the-scenes.

Q: What’s your goal with Barriers and Borders?

Forum and Shiva: Our goal is to enable our readers to see the world without Barriers And Borders through our travel- and lived-experiences around the world. We aim to bring out stories that how travel can, indeed, have positive impact on you, the places you visit, and the people you meet. 

A couple posing for a phot where the man seems to be in a joyful cheery mood and the woman is smiling lightly.
Shivy always goofing around

travel experiences

Q: How many countries have you travelled to?

Forum: Ummmm… let’s cut the chase with this one: we despise country counting and haven’t tracked countries we’ve visited. No. 1 reason for this is because of its shallow and consumptive nature – especially with social media, it has become a competition of sorts to show off the places you’ve been to. It doesn’t matter if you’ve just transited through an airport and still counted THAT country, or you’ve just visited ONE city and still counted the country. Let’s take travelling in India for example: if a traveller has only been to Mumbai or Bangalore, and then counted that as “checked” for India, it would be such a shame. Because the scale of India is insane, and so is its diversity – in religion, food, languages, ethnicities, landscapes, culture, fashion, you name it. Yes, it’s true that growing up I didn’t have the privilege to do international trips, and now being able to travel to so many international destinations, my inner child jumps in joy each time we step onto a new territory. But that’s about it.

Shiva: I totally echo this mindset. I also think country counting takes away the nuances of a place: Paris for instance, has so many of these arrondissements (districts), and each of them feels like a world apart. The kind of green, cozy Paris we saw and experienced was so much unlike what we commonly hear from people who’ve supposedly “been” to Paris. I also love revisiting the same destinations over and over again; you’re also a different person each time you revisit a place. The city that totally thrilled you in your early 20s can feel completely chaotic in you early 30s. Plus, it’s wondrous to see a place in different seasons – winter in Lapland would be so different from summer in Lapland, and so on. 

Q: What are your dream destinations?

Forum: Oh! So many…. but the very first one that comes to mind is Japan. I would be very delighted to spend months or a few years in different parts of Japan. Slow travelling across rural Punjab, Leh & Ladakh is certainly on my Wishlist. I also dream of the Arctic Lapland, French Polynesia, many parts of East and South Africa. It’s funny how Shiva and I created this “bucket-list” of travel experiences in our early 20s – the kind of stuff that we’d love to chase in this lifetime. And many of those have already been ticked off. Ya, I’d rather check travel experiences over countries.

Shiva: If I gotta be really honest, most of my travel dreams are linked to wildlife and natural (or nature-inspired) landscapes. Some of my top ones include the one and only Amazon Rainforest, the Masai Mara, the Galápagos Islands, the Great Barrier Reef. On a completely different note, watching a home derby game (Liverpool vs ManU) at Anfield naturally gets a high priority (I’m a huge Liverpool fan)! Also, one of my simple wishes is to be able to slow travel in northeast India, spending months together there – playing a bit of football with the local kids too 😀

Q: Any tips for first time travellers to Europe?

Forum and Shiva: First and foremost, Europe is A CONTINENT; not a country. And each country here is distinct, independent, charismatic in its own ways. So don’t rush through them all to do 5,6,7 countries in 10 days. We’d suggest to do slow down and spend a meaningful time learning and understanding the places deeply. Spend a week in Paris if you will, or hike the German, Swiss or French Alps, or just spend time slowly exploring Italy’s art scene.

Second, please don’t bring food packets from your respective countries. Try local food instead, even vegan and vegetarian is easily available in most parts.

Third, bring sturdy walking shoes – very much required on cobbled streets.

Fourth, try renting bikes in cities and explore the place slowly on two wheels. Love this! We’ve biked in major destinations we’ve visited. It’s such a cool experience!

Fifth, use efficient and affordable public transportation – best part about travelling through Europe is noticing how seamless its borders are through bus journeys and rail trips.

Sixth, check out thrift stores for some antique, second-hand shopping instead of buying plastic souvenirs. Even better, carry home food souvenirs.
We should definitely write a blog on this, haha! 

Q: How do you usually prefer to explore a destination?

Forum and Shiva: To begin with, given a chance we would love to give a minimum of one month to explore any destination as such. It’s such an honour to immerse yourself in the local community of the place you’re visiting – learn about their everyday lives, their struggles, what is home like for them, what is their relationship with the landscape, and so on. We put in a great amount of time and effort into researching local initiatives of the destination, and do our best to support the local economy while there. A cruise expedition or an all-inclusive resort stay may not be for us. But, spending a night under the Saharan stars with an Amazigh or cycling through million-year-old gigantic rocks of Greece might sound like our style. Btw, we’ve experienced both, and a 100% recommend you. 

Not to forget, we make the maximum use of public transportation or walk 21k steps a day while travelling (We believe in a car-free world).

Q: Don’t you guys get bored of travelling with each other? Don’t you travel in groups?

Shiva: I don’t get this question really, the first part that is. One of the first reasons why we fell in love is to be able to experience life together. It’s now (2026) ten years since we met and even today nothing excites us more than when we sit down to make the next travel-plan. In our everyday work-lives we barely get time for each other, while on the road it’s 24×7 “togetherness”. And that’s exactly what we love and want more and more. Many have told us how lucky we are that we share so many beliefs and interests. But if you ask us, isn’t that how a relationship should be? 

That brings us to the next question. Since we both have very similar ideologies, we tend to plan our travel itineraries on our own. But we wouldn’t really say no to a certain group travel if one comes up to our liking. 

Q: What do you like and hate about travel?

Forum: I absolutely love that we all have this privilege to travel. And when we have that, we should certainly not take it for granted. Meeting new people, trying new vegan dishes around the world, experiencing beautiful cultures and traditions, and getting mesmerised by nature’s beauty in different parts of our planet are all things I love about travel. 

I do dislike some things about the tourism industry, though: spoiling fragile ecosystems by littering or geotagging these places on social media, exploiting wild animals for a few minutes of entertainment in zoos, forcing indigenous people to “perform” in front of wealthy tourists eventually commodifying their sacred cultures, and so on. We’ve actually made an instagram post on this: Read it here. 

Shiva: For me travel is firstly about discovering just how wondrous this planet we are born into really is. And the second part is how travelling to new places immediately rewires your brain, in ways you cannot really explain. Who I am today is shaped a lot by the places I have been to or lived in. And this is the unspoken beauty that I cherish. 

Things that we hate – we hate together 😀 So there’s not much to add.

education & skills

Q: What are your education backgrounds?

Forum: I studied my master’s in building architecture from a Belgian university. And Shiva has a master’s degree in landscape architecture. We both have our bachelor’s degree in architecture from Indian universities.

Q: Since you both are architects, what kind of architecture are you most fond of?

Forum: I think any form of architecture that is built in context with the local environment is something I believe is a good architecture; or as Didi Contractor, the self-taught sustainable architect, says that one should limit utilising materials that cannot be replaced or re-grown easily. I also love exploring refurbished or adaptive reuse kind of buildings. 

Shiva: This may sound too radical, but in the initial years of my bachelor-studies, I was literally of the belief that “To build is to pollute”, and hence architecture isn’t suited for me. But thanks to a workshop I attended at the Laurie Baker Centre for habitat studies in Kerala, my entire mindset shifted- that architecture can also be a force for good, when done mindfully.

Both Forum and I are into architecture that uses natural, renewable materials and also in minimalism. Thank god we do, because that’s what even brought us together!

Our current dream is to buy an old dilapidated home amidst nature and to give it new life with our little touches. Unfortunately, most architects today believe in brand-new creations with brand new materials. But, we are the opposite – for us, ‘Re-use’ comes first, above all. 

Q: Do you speak any European languages?

Forum: Yes, I can speak a bit of Dutch and French. I’m currently learning German, so perhaps, in a few years I will be able to speak German fluently 🙂

Shiva: I can speak German – I learnt the language as a parallel activity ever since I began working in Germany. It’s a pretty hard language and I’m glad to say I can now comfortably get around daily life and work environment. But like people say it takes a lifetime to be fully adept at German 😛

Travel is rich with learning opportunities, and the ultimate souvenir is a broader perspective.

Rick Steves

vegan lifestyle and beliefs

Q: Are you both religious?

Forum: If being religious means taking care of mother earth, voicing against animal exploitation, being kind to each and every sentient being, then probably I am most devoted to whatever THIS religion is. But otherwise, I don’t believe in God. 

Shiva: I come from quite a religious background. Let’s just say I was born into one. Thankfully though, I grew out of it quite a while ago and would certainly call myself an atheist. I really believe religion has done more harm to society than good. Religion, in our eyes, is a man-made border, to categorise society. And at BnB, we clearly stand for breaking all barriers and borders.

Q: When did you become vegan?

Forum: In 2020, right when the first wave of Covid hit Europe, I decided I wanted to go fully vegan. I grew up in a vegetarian family, but after moving to Belgium and seeing all the conveniences a vegan can have, there was no excuse to hold myself back from transitioning to a vegan lifestyle. Watching documentaries like Cowspiracy really cemented my beliefs and pushed me into this direction. Shiva, obviously, has been a big influence on me in terms of just how one lives in alignment with one’s values.

Shiva: I turned fully vegan as a New Year’s resolution in 2016. A few months prior, my transition journey had already begun when I met a vegan Belgian at Auroville in Pondicherry, where I was volunteering for a while. It was this chance conversation with him that opened my eyes to the cruelty of the dairy industry and to one simple revelation – that milk, in strictly biological terms, is after all something that a mother’s body produces for her newborn infant. 

Q: What’s your favourite cuisine?

Forum: My all-time favourite is Pav Bhaji (of course, I’m a Mumbaikar), Indo-chinese, and Dabeli. I also relish Greek food – yummmm.

Shiva: Coming from south India, I naturally have a soft spot for North Indian cuisine. My idea of good food is Roti, Sabzi and Dal, with freshly sliced onions sprinkled with lemon. Nothing better if this is in a roadside Dhaba somewhere in Rajasthan. I generally love to cook, more than Forum does. You’re sure to find me in the kitchen, sprucing up something very “presentable” – that’s my kind of meditation.

values, philosophy & aspirations

Q: What’s your mantra for life?

Forum: Dream big and follow your gut. Be as authentic as possible – there’s no one as unique as you in the whole wide world.

Shiva: Two mantras:
1. Seeing pain and suffering in all beings as your own is true consciousness. (Bhagavad Gita) 
2. Ever tried, ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. (Samuel Beckett)

Q: What are the most important values that drive the decisions you make in life?

Forum and Shiva: Compassion for all life forms on our planet. Gratitude to our parents. Celebrating the one life that we all have. Rejecting traditional gender roles.  

A woman in a knit hat points toward a river and snowy mountain from a bridge, with leafless trees and a scenic sign nearby; a calm winter outing.
“Bade bade deshon mein aaisi choti choti baatein hoti rehti hain.”

recommendations

Q: What are some of your best movie recommendations?

Forum: Ngl, but I was never really a movie buff. I’ve started watching movies properly only in the last 5 years or so – thanks to Shiva. But, I would recommend watching an array of diverse movies that are meaningful, and at times, compel you to think deeply. I would recommend watching all Imtiaz Ali movies (big big fan!) Also, watch Inception, Pursuit of Happiness, The Shawshank Redemption. Many of K-dramas that I find extremely moving are When Life Gives You Tangerines and Extraordinary Attorney Woo. 

Shiva: Into the Wild. Anbe Sivam (Tamil). The Batman Trilogy. Breaking Bad (Series). Being with Forum has turned me into an Imtiaz Ali fan too, haha. Would highly recommend Highway (Hindi).

Q: Book recommendations?

Forum: I mostly read non-fiction, but some of the best ones I would recommend are: The Forty Rules of Love, Tuesdays with Morrie, Welcome to the Hyunam-dong Bookshop, Sapiens.

Shiva: Although I used to read more earlier, unfortunately haven’t been much of an avid reader in the last decade or so. But some of my personal favourites include A Thousand Splendid Suns, The Alchemist, The Hidden Life of Trees. I also love comics: Tintin, Persepolis, and of course, our very own Indian – Amar Chitra Katha 🙂

We absolutely loved doing this – sharing everything with our internet family. Thank you so much for asking thoughtful (& curious) questions. We’ll keep adding them here as and when we go! Happy travels 🙂

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